WELSH HISTORY OF
A Community Social Event could be staged following the unveiling to feature the Music of North Wales with an invitation for a Welsh Male Voice Choir. This event would recognise the historic links between North Wales and Liverpool and fulfil aims of Liverpool City Council for community participation in Capital of Culture year 2008. We picture (above) photographs of Barmouth and Snowdon (North Wales). Added to these pictures is photograph of the former Rhosydd Slate Mine (closed 1930), which is located one mile south of Blaenau Ffestiniog.
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It would be of great help if descendants of former Welsh residents of the Over The Bridge area of Vauxhall, Liverpool 5 could contact the project, which also aims to help people (world wide) with their Welsh Family History Research.
My family originally lived in Padget Street in what local people call the Over The Bridge area of Vauxhall. I am keen to find out more about my family tree with the names of Cain and Ashworth most prominent. I am equally keen to support efforts of the Scottie Press to research and recognise the Welsh History of this area. I have been going to North Wales on holiday since 1966. First taken as a 4 year old by my mum and dad. The photo of me on the railway station platform in LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLLLANTYSILIOGOGOGOCH was taken last year (2006) My wife (whose maiden name is Owen) and my three children and of course myself, now travel to North Wales every summer and stay in a Farm House in Llanrwst for a week. This year we are taking two weeks holiday in North Wales the first week in Llanrwst and the second week we are staying in a 16th Century Farmhouse in the St Asaph area. This super 16th Century Grade II Listed Farmhouse is situated on a working family farm. It is steeped in history, once visited by Samuel Johnson, built by Sir Richard Clough - second husband to Catherine of Berain, Mother of Wales, second cousin to Queen Elizabeth I. The property is recorded as the first brick building in Wales, with a date stone of 1567.(see photo below)
It is my intention this year to find out what I can about any Welsh connections with my family tree and that of my wife. I will also try to help the Scottie Press find out more of why the Over The Bridge area in Vauxhall, Liverpool 5, had a big Welsh occupation in the mid-late 19th Century and why they left their existence in the area with the street names. I have read that there are hopes to have a plaque made from Welsh Slate sited and unveiled in the landscaped area at the junction of Barmoth Way and Snowdon Lane in what is now known as Athol Village. I have taken some photos of this Athol Village area for this article.
I intend to visit the Llechwedd Slate Caverns in Blaenau Ffestiniog as both my sons (aged 14 and 17) will I know be very interested in seeing how men dug out the slate that was made into the slate tiles for the roofs of houses in Liverpool.If any website readers might be interested in helping me with my quest, I can be contacted on firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com. Kevin Cain
The North Wales coastal town of Llandudno is hoping that it can reap the benefits of thousands of tourists flooding into Merseyside for Capital of Culture 2008. Officials in the seaside resort hope to link some of their cultural events with those planned for Liverpool in 2008 able to show tourists to Liverpool what Llandudno can offer.
Liverpool was once referred to as the capital of North Wales and still has a small Welsh population. The Lord Mayor of Liverpool, Councillor Alan Dean has said that Liverpool will work in any ways the city can (including tourist package deals) to help North Wales benefit from 2008. The Lord Mayor also said that he appreciated that people who come to Liverpool in 2008 will have intentions of visiting places outside the city. Llandudno was designed by Liverpool architect Owen Williams as a seaside resort in the 1800s.
Great Crosshall Street, Liverpool 3, was laid out from 1800 and soon two Welsh chapels appeared which would make one assume that the Welsh population was spreading from their established area and stronghold of St. Paul's square in the Pall Mall area of Liverpool 3.
One chapel was at the junction of Marybone and Great Crosshall Street. This building became in later years the office of Brian Green Typewriters. The building and is pictured just further down Great Crosshall Street from Prout's Garage. It was subsequently demolished to make way for student block accommodation. The other Welsh chapel building had long since gone.
Irish and Scottish links with the city of Liverpool are well documented, but the story of the Welsh in Liverpool is often over looked. Indeed its very name is thought to have come from 'Lle'r pwll' - that is 'the place of the pool'.
Liverpool is a Maritime City, and it began this tradition transporting Welsh Slate from Conway. As the port grew it attracted many peoples from the surrounding area in search of work. This is illustrated by the large number of both Lancastrian and Welsh surnames still evident in the city. Indeed there are probably more Hughes, Williams and Owens than in Cardiff.
In the 19th Century, the city-centre's Pall Mall was known as 'Little Wales' and it was the site of the first Welsh Chapel in Liverpool, built in 1787. A later one built in Toxteth was for a long time the largest Welsh Chapel in the world. In 1813, one in every ten people in Liverpool were Welsh and a high percentage could only speak their native tongue. In the 1870s a further 50,000 Welsh people moved to the city, making it the unofficial 'Capital of North Wales'. The National Eisteddfod has been held in Liverpool - 1840 - 1854 - 1884 - 1900 and 1929. The Eisteddfod has been invited to return to Liverpool in 2007 in the run-up to the city's Capital of Culture celebrations in 2008.
Pall Mall circa 1960's
We picture below a selection of photographs taken in Pall Mall (2006) and would hope that if the Eisteddfod is held in Liverpool in 2007 there will be efforts made to acknowledge this area as being at one time 'Liverpool's 'Little Wales'.
We thank Josie McCann (Secretary, Liverpool History Society) for providing some information about Welsh residents of the Over The Bridge area as recorded in the 1861 Liverpool Census. Josie feels that at this time there may well have been over 200 Welsh born people living in these streets.
Living at number 36 Denbigh Street was a John Williams who was born in Denbighshire and who was employed in 1861 as a Foundry Yard Keeper. He was married to a Jane Williams who was born in Carnarvonshire.
Living at number 3 Idris Street was a Sarah Asbury who was originally born in Harden/Flint and is registered on the census as a seaman's wife. Living at number 14 is a John Williams, born in Anglesea and employed as Engineer/Driver Steamboat.
At number 26 lived Hugh Hughes from Beaumaris who was a dock labourer. At number 32 lived David Griffiths from Conway who was a stoker for a steam vessel.
Living at number 17 Camaes Street was a James Jones from Flint who was a dock labourer.
At number 22 lived an Ann Nutt from Wales who was a widow.
Living at number 2 Snowdon Street was a Robert Hughes from Holyhead who was a dock gateman. Also registered at number 2 is John Owens also from Holyhead who was a merchant seaman.
At number 4 lived Hugh Evans from North Wales employed as a dock gateman. At number 6 was a Hugh Hughes also from Carnarvon and also a dock gateman.
At number 7 was a Robert Griffiths from Carnarvon and also a dock gateman. At number 8 was a William Phillips from Carnarvon and employed as a dock gateman.
At number 9 was John Jones from Holyhead who was a merchant seaman. At number 12 was Hugh Owen from Holyhead who was a dock labourer. Also registered at number 12 was Robert Jones from Llangollen who was a dock labourer.
At 16 lived Ann Williams from Anglesea who was a seaman's wife. At number 17 was a David Davies from Denbigh who was a merchant seaman. At number 18 was a William Jones from Holyhead who was a merchant seaman. At number 19 was a Ellen Williams from Llandudno who was a seaman's wife. At number 25 lived Charles Davies from Denbigh who was stoker for a steam vessel. Also at 25 was William Williams from Holyhead who was a seaman.
Living at 38 Barmouth Street was a Thomas Llewellyn from Pembroke who was a Mariner. Also registered at number 38 was a John Jones who was from Wales and who was a shoemaker. At number 19 was a Mary Williams from Anglesea who was a housekeeper. At number 31 lived a John Thomas from Milford who was a ships carpenter. At number 37 lived a Owen Williams from Wales who was a Mariner. Living at number 18 Menai Street was a Henry Rimmer from Wales who was employed as a dock porter.
At 36 lived a Edward Evans from Ruthin who was a labourer. At 42 lived a Jacob Platt from Denbigh who was a grocer. Also at 42 was a William Platt from Llandafan Cardigan who was a grocer's assistant. At 25 lived a John Jones from Aberystmouth who was a ships rigger. We also that Josie McCann for providing this webpoge with an 1847 Map of Liverpool off which we have taken the insert featured below which shows the 'Over The Bridge ' area. Highlighted is Athol Street.
Our thanks go to Kevin Cain who with his wife and 3 children recently spent a week’s holiday in the Snowdonia National Park, North Wales (see photo above). Whilst there he picked up a number of leaflets to help with the Scottie Press Welsh History of ‘Over The Bridge’ Project.
This project will hopefully be able to shed-more-light on the occupation of this famous area of Vauxhall from 1830 – 1870 and onwards by former Welsh Slate Quarry workers many of who went on to become Liverpool House Builders.
It is an acknowledged fact that they were responsible for building many of the terraced streets in the Kirkdale, Walton, Anfield, Dingle and Toxteth areas of Liverpool. It is an aim of this project to record as accurately and as comprehensively as possible the history of these welsh people and to trace their roots back to Wales and forward to where their descendants might now live etc.
Amongst the places that Kevin and his family visited on holiday were perhaps the places where the former Welsh residents of the ‘Over The Bridge’ area of Liverpool came from, including; Conwy, Llandudno, Bangor, Llanfairfechan, Caernarfon, Llanrwst, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Llanberis and Denbigh. Kevin and family were able to view examples of the type of houses these quarry-workers lived in when living in Wales (see photo below).
The ‘Over The Bridge’ area of Liverpool 5 had identifying streets named Snowdon, Barmouth, Menai, Newport, Cemeas and Denbigh.
The photo above was taken at junction of Denbigh St with Great Howard Street and shows the Tobacco Warehouse in the background.
Some holiday snaps taken by Kevin show the Italian Village at Portmeirion near Portmadog and the Swallow Falls at Betws y Coed.
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